Finding Hope and Defiance in "Wicked": Lessons for Today
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Finding Hope and Defiance in "Wicked": Lessons for Today

Ray Kirstein
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Ray Kirstein
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January 2, 2025

Standing up to power. Questioning blind devotion to “the man behind the curtain.” Embracing those who don’t fit in and staying true to your values, no matter what. Sounds a lot like what we’re dealing with in today’s world, right? But it’s also the heart of Wicked, the hit musical that’s captured hearts (and minds) for years.

In our final episode of The State of Belief for 2024, host Rev. Paul Brandeis Raushenbush dives into these timely themes with Guthrie Graves-Fitzsimmons, a huge Wicked fan and advocate for social justice. Guthrie’s love for the Gregory Maguire book and the Wizard of Oz prequel runs deep—so deep that it’s even shaped his own work.

Elphaba, the green-skinned protagonist of Wicked, doesn’t just defy gravity—she defies societal norms, challenging everything from stereotypes to authority. Paul and Guthrie chat about how her story inspired them during their younger years and continues to fuel their fight for equality and justice. Guthrie even created an Advent devotional that weaves in _Wicked_’s themes, giving us all something to think about as we navigate the challenges ahead.

As we head into what’s sure to be a tough year, Guthrie wraps up with five key takeaways from Wicked that we can carry forward. Spoiler: they’re all about courage, empathy, and staying true to what matters.

By the way, Guthrie isn’t just a superfan—he’s also the Senior Director of Policy and Advocacy at Interfaith Alliance, with a background in faith-based advocacy and a passion for progressive Christianity. He’s written Just Faith: Reclaiming Progressive Christianity and contributed to Word & Way with an Advent devotional highlighting the lessons of Wicked. Let’s just say he knows a thing or two about blending faith, culture, and justice.

So, whether you’re a lifelong Wicked fan or just love a good story with a dose of inspiration, this episode’s for you. Here’s to flying high and fighting for what’s right!

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Ray Kirstein is the Producer of the State of Belief podcast.

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